ࡱ>  ۓbjbj 7hh& 8/dldR"!!!ddddddd$f{i,d,d!!AdV$V$V$!!dV$dV$V$bQX&U!@n/u<R(cWd0dRD jP jP&U j&UV$,d,d!\d j : WESTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY Regular Meeting of the FACULTY SENATE Tuesday, 16 September 2008 3:30 p.m. Capitol Rooms - University Union A C T I O N M I N U T E S SENATORS PRESENT: L. Baker-Sperry, C. Blackinton, V. Boynton, L. Brice, J. Clough, L. Conover, K. Daytner, J. Deitz, D. DeVolder, L. Erdmann, R. Hironimus-Wendt, M. Hoge, V. Jelatis, M. Maskarinec, L. Meloy, D. Mummert, A. Pathak, G. Pettit, T. Pfafman, C. Pynes, M. Siddiqi, I. Szabo Ex-officio: Jack Thomas, Provost; T. Kaul, Parliamentarian SENATORS ABSENT: None GUESTS: Judi Dallinger, Alan DeRoos, Ken Hawkinson, Bob Intrieri, Sara Lawson, Joan Maze, Candace McLaughlin, Sandy Nash, Jim Schmidt, Lance Ternasky I. Consideration of Minutes 2 September 2008 Correction: In Approvals from the President, the first item should be the RN-BSN Completion Program Admissions Requirements. APPROVED AS CORRECTED II. Announcements A. Approvals from the Provost 1. Request for Change in Option a. Athletic Training 2. Request for Inclusion in General Education b. BAT 300, Global Study, 1-9 s.h. B. Provosts Report Provost Thomas told senators he had just returned from the Quad Cities campus and is trying to spend more time there. He plans to send information to faculty in the next day or two about travel funds set aside by the Provosts office. Provost Thomas stated that he did not receive the $500,000 he requested for additional faculty travel funding, but he has been able to earmark $600 in matching funds for local and national travel and $900 in matching funds for international use. Provost Thomas announced that graduate enrollment at ֱ increased for fall 2008 with 2,440 students enrolled, up 11.07 percent (256 students) from fall 2007. The figures are based on tenth-day enrollment. The Provost anticipates receiving the names of faculty representatives to the College of Education and Human Services Deans Search Committee on Thursday. He thanked Faculty Senate for smoothly coordinating efforts to obtain appropriate faculty representation from the college. He anticipates moving swiftly forward in the search after the final six names are determined. Provost Thomas plans to constitute the Provosts Advisory Council next week with an initial meeting in the near future. C. Student Government Association Report Chairperson DeVolder has been informed that SGA committee appointments will occur within the next 24 hours, and a representative is anticipated to be able to attend the next Faculty Senate meeting. D. Other Announcements 1. Learning to Lead (Joan Maze, Assistant Director of Student Activities) Ms. Maze told senators Learning to Lead has evolved and expanded in the past two years, from a summer experience to a three-year leadership development program. Promising students are recruited as freshmen, and when accepted are required to take RPTA 490, Introduction to Leadership, during fall semester of their sophomore years. They continue their leadership development by attending workshops and completing ten hours of community service per semester thereafter. After completing two semesters in the program, Learning to Lead students have the opportunity to attend a summer leadership institute in Washington, D.C. WIU is partnering with The Washington Center to offer the career- and interest-relevant internships that connect students with Washington, D.C. companies specializing in interests ranging from geometry to zoology. In addition to the internship, students may receive up to six s.h. of credit for courses taken under the auspices of The Washington Center and taught be faculty in the D.C. area. Ms. Maze told senators The Washington Center is not an accredited degree-granting institution, so they work specifically and uniquely with each university to obtain credit for students completing the program. Faculty working with The Washington Center assess students and recommend a grade for their completed courses, which can then be granted, upon evaluation, by the appropriate department or college within the parent university. Ms. Maze told senators that when students ask WIU faculty if they can obtain credit for Learning to Lead, they may be asking if they can obtain credit for the internship or the coursework through The Washington Center. Ms. Maze explained that Learning to Lead absorbs much of the costs of the ten-week internship, including transportation to and from Washington, D.C., housing, program fees for The Washington Center, and a transportation stipend for use of the metro system. Students are required to pay for personal expenses and food. Ms. Maze said WIU has a good reputation for providing quality students through the program, and student participants make important connections within their chosen fields. When Learning to Lead students return from their Washington, D.C. internship, they are required to complete a portfolio during their senior year. Ms. Maze stated students also have the option to complete, with the assistance of a mentor, a senior project that makes a positive impact on the WIU campus. Ms. Maze stated that until a cohort of students completes the expanded program, Learning to Lead will continue to offer a summer institute. The program is looking for junior or senior students who have completed 60 s.h. by the end of spring 2009 to participate in the summer institute, and asked senators to recommend to her any promising students who might be interested. These students would be required to take RPTA 490 prior to participating in the institute, which runs from just after Memorial Day until the second weekend in August. Senator Hironimus-Wendt asked if students must pay tuition for the credits that transfer into ֱ. Ms. Maze responded that students are responsible for this expense; Learning to Lead funds cannot be used to pay for tuition. Senator Deitz stated that while the Learning to Lead experience sounds like a good one for students, the transfer of grades seems a bit unclear. Ms. Maze responded that all Illinois public institutions work with The Washington Center, but most universities have a leadership department that will easily match the courses taken in Washington, D.C. Since this is not the case at WIU, she said there needs to be a bit more effort at this end, but she stated The Washington Center is willing to work closely with deans and chairs to answer questions about the classes and do whatever is needed to obtain credit for Learning to Lead students. The Washington Center provides extensive information about the students performance in the classes, and WIU makes the decision about how those courses match with those offered at the University. She said credit for the internship is easier to obtain since most departments offer an internship-level course. Senator Siddiqi said if faculty could obtain a list of classes students take in Washington, D.C., they could work on determining what is transferrable. Ms. Maze said she is willing to provide this to the contact person in any interested department. 2. Enforcement of Prerequisites (Alan DeRoos, Registrar, and Candace McLaughlin, Director, University Advising Center) According to Prerequisite Policies and Procedures, the enforced prerequisite procedure is available for departments that want to enforce prerequisites by ensuring that students who have not met course-specific prerequisites are automatically dropped from the course prior to the start of the semester. In order to determine if a student has met course prerequisites, the system checks the students WIU transcript for completion of the prerequisite course. Mr. DeRoos explained to senators that while it would be ideal if it were possible to check whether students have the necessary prerequisites on their transcripts before allowing them to register for a particular class, that capability is not feasible under ֱs current computer system. He said even were this possible, it would not prevent a student from taking a prerequisite class over the summer at a community college, thus making them eligible for a fall class for which it would appear they have not yet met the prerequisites. Mr. DeRoos explained that in 1996-97, concerns were first expressed regarding a need for better checking of prerequisites. This led to the implementation of enforced prerequisites, which have been in place for two semesters. Mr. DeRoos stated departments are still learning what to put in place to get the most out of enforced prerequisites for their students. Up to this time and continuing currently, smart rosters were used to check whether students had obtained credit for prerequisite courses. Smart rosters feature an asterisk after students names that have not yet met the prerequisites. Faculty are required to inform the Registrars office within five days of receiving the smart roster if they wish to eject students who have not met the prequisites. Mr. DeRoos explained that part of the reason immediate checking of prerequisites is not possible is a backlog of work for ֱs computer programmers. He said at least 40 requests are pending that require a lot of programming, including plus-minus grading and online grade submission. He explained that when Faculty Senate passes FYE changes that need to be in place by November 1, for example, this can push back some other major programming projects. Additionally, Administrative Computing services are undergoing a conversion to DB2 which is a very large undertaking. He stated if the Registrars office were to request enforced prerequisite checks when students try to register, the request would be placed on a priority list and may not come to fruition for another two years at best. Alternatively, smart rosters were able to be up and running within a year. Mr. DeRoos added that changes or upgrades to ֱs mainframe occur every three years, and when this is due to happen, the registration response time is degraded. Mr. DeRoos feared that if ֱ attempted to implement a program that would check whether the prereqs have been met each time a student requests a registration, with up to 500 students registering on STARS at one time, it would be too much for the system to handle. Senator Boynton stated that she has taught at other Universities where enforcement of prerequisites was not the problem it is at ֱ. She asked why WIU cannot implement what is being done at other universities. Mr. DeRoos responded that ֱ has a legacy system built by WIU, which can be a good thing when smaller projects can be completed quickly, but can also be bad because bigger projects can take much longer. He said ֱ is the envy of the state in what its computer system can do in some ways, but the system also has flaws in what it can accomplish. Senator Jelatis asked if students understand the enforced prerequisite system, stating that some of her students panicked at receiving emails stating they would be dropped from her classes. Ms. McLaughlin responded the process is an evolution, but advisors feel it is going pretty well so far. Advisors have requested that they be notified a couple of weeks prior to student notifications so that some problems can be resolved by them beforehand. Senator Jelatis said that would be helpful, and Mr. DeRoos stated that will be put into place for next semester. Ms. McLaughlin predicted that with more time, the enforced prerequisite system will become a smoother process. Mr. DeRoos added that departments could choose to inform students themselves that they have not met the prerequisites for a class and will be removed from it on a certain date unless they withdraw from it on their own. He said departments could send such notifications to their students from November 15 to January 15, or from April 15 to mid-August. Mr. DeRoos warned, however, that once an unqualified student drops, another unqualified student could register for the class. Dr. Intrieri inquired about the chain of command for an individual faculty member to request that prerequisites for a specific class be enforced. Sara Lawson of the Registrars office responded that a department representative, such as a secretary, can make the change online; the process is left entirely up to departments. Mr. DeRoos added that departments have the option to initially choose enforced prerequisites when they are building the schedule. According to Prerequisite Policies and Procedures, departments may not select to automatically enforce prerequisites after students have registered for the course; departments must do so prior to the advanced registration period for a specific semester. Ms. McLaughlin added that for students to have to get special permission to transfer from one section to another of the same class is cumbersome. Dr. Intrieri asked how a waiver of prerequisites (WEP) works, noting that there may be lack of understanding as to what this term means. Ms. Lawson explained that WEP permission can be put on a students registration at any time to prevent a student who has not met the enforced prerequisite from being dropped from the course. Mr. DeRoos added that if a student was taking a prerequisite course at a community college over the summer and his or her final transcript would not be communicated to ֱ before he/she would be dropped from the course, the advisor could add a WEP to the student to prevent this occurring. Senator Hironimus-Wendt noted he has had no problems with enforced prerequisites and that the process seems to be working well. He asked the Registrar to update senators on the plus-minus conversion. Mr. DeRoos responded that before plus-minus grading is implemented, the Registrars office wishes to develop an online grade submission system and to eliminate bubble sheet grading. He had hoped this could be tested for mid-term grades in October, but the system is not yet ready. Mr. DeRoos now hopes the online grading system can be tested for spring mid-terms. He explained that several things occurred that caused programmers to realign their priorities. He said that with the shootings at Northern Illinois University, the need became apparent for better updated addresses in order to contact persons effectively in the event of a campus wide emergency, so a lot of programming effort has been put into that. He had originally hoped that plus-minus grading could be implemented in fall 2009, although he stated that date may now have to be pushed back. 3. Nominations are still being sought for two vacant positions on the University Personnel Committee. A two-year term is open in the Colleges of Arts and Sciences, and a three-year term in the College of Education and Human Services. Only tenured, full professors are eligible to serve on the Committee. Information was mailed to department chairs for posting, and is available on the Faculty Senate website under Elections. III. Reports of Committees and Councils A. Council on Admission, Graduation, and Academic Standards (Robert Intrieri, Chair) 1. Admissions Requirements for Combined Nursing Degree Dr. Intrieri told senators that on April 10, CAGAS approved a 2.75 GPA for completion of the program year and an entrance exam based upon a 2.75 for Nursing. He noted that most students enter the program with a 3.4 or 3.5 GPA or above. He said CAGAS asked the program director to reformat some of the additional information in the document to make it easier to understand. College of Arts and Sciences Associate Dean Jim Schmidt explained that the Nursing program has two sets of admissions requirements: one for the completion degree, which has been approved and is already in place, and the admissions requirement for the completion degree plus the four-year program combined, which is being considered currently. Senator Hironimus-Wendt said he hopes Nursing fine-tunes the document before it become catalog copy to make it clear whether internal WIU students are to be held to the same requirements as students who transfer into the Nursing program. The proposed catalog copy states that Each student must maintain a cumulative GPA of 2.75 on a 4.0 scale to remain in the nursing program. Students with less than a 2.75 GPA will be dismissed from the nursing program. Senator Hironimus-Wendt suggested this could be made clearer by prefacing it with Upon acceptance into the nursing program to indicate that from that point on, all students must maintain a 2.75 GPA. He said because the proposed wording does not require students to transfer in a 2.75 GPA for courses, it would appear to give transfer students a relative advantage over current WIU students entering the program. Associate Dean Schmidt stated he would be comfortable changing the wording to make it clearer and eliminate this perception. Dr. Schmidt anticipates that applications will be so competitive that students will generally enter the program with GPAs well above this minimum. Senator Boynton found several grammatical errors in the text of the document that will also be corrected before it is sent to the President for approval. REPORT APPROVED AS CORRECTED B. Committee on Committees (Janna Deitz, Chair) SENATE COUNCILS: Council for International Education Larry Andrew, ISDS replacing Chryssa Sharp 2009 B&T Writing Instruction in the Disciplines Anita Werling, Music replacing Ilon Lauer 2010 FA&C UNIVERSITY COMMITTEES: BOT-BA Advisory Board Elgin Mannion, Soc/Anth replacing Ivan Jimenez-Williams 2010 A&S Bureau of Cultural Affairs Jess White, Soc/Anth replacing C. SThembile West 2010 At-large Information Security Steering Committee Scott Hemenover, Psych new position A&S Yeongkwun Kim, Comp Sci new position B&T Fred May, Health Sciences new position E&HS Vince Palacios, Art new position FA&C There were no further nominations from the floor. The nominees were elected by acclamation. The Senate Recording Secretary has checked with Chief Technology Security Officer Mike Rodriguez regarding terms for appointments to the new Information Security Steering Committee. Mr. Rodriguez recommended two-year terms. Senators asked that the terms be staggered. Senator Deitz will contact the four appointees to see if they prefer one-year or two-year terms, and appointment letters will be sent out accordingly. IV. Old Business A. Election of Committee on Provost and Presidential Performance According to the Senate Constitution, The Committee shall consist of five Senate members elected by the Faculty Senate. At least one member shall be elected from among the current membership of the Faculty Senate Executive Committee. Volunteers to the Committee, in order of nomination and with college in which they teach, included: Senator Pettit, Arts and Sciences (Executive Committee) Senator Siddiqi, Arts and Sciences Senator Pynes, Arts and Sciences Senator Meloy, Education and Human Services Senator Hoge, Business and Technology It was noted that the Constitution does not specify that senators be seated from the four academic colleges. The slate of candidates was declared elected B. Proposed Constitutional Amendment to Establish a Senate Council for Instructional Technology 1. First Reading Chairperson DeVolder reminded senators that discussion and a vote on the proposed amendment will occur at the September 30 meeting. V. New Business A. Request for Creation of a School of Nursing Associate Dean Schmidt reminded senators they have already approved many things related to the Nursing program, stating the RN-to-BSN completion program is running and has admitted students, and last year approval was received for the four-year BSN program, which will admit students natively. The College is applying to the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation for approval to offer the basic Nursing program because those students will be RNs so will need this level of approval as well. Dr. Schmidt explained the proposal before Faculty Senate would take a credit program in the Department of Biological Sciences and create an administrative unit for it: the School of Nursing within the College of Arts and Sciences (COAS). He told senators much of the proposal document looks very similar to previous submissions Faculty Senate has considered for the program: it will go to the Provost and President for approval next, and finally to the Illinois Board of Higher Education (IBHE). Senator Maskarinec asked why the decision was made to house the School of Nursing within the College of Arts and Sciences. Associate Dean Schmidt replied the decision was made some time ago when the program was first being developed. He explained that a substantial amount of the preparatory coursework for the program is housed within the College of Arts and Sciences, particularly Chemistry, Biology and Mathematics. He said the BSN is built on the belief that this broad foundation of education provided to students makes them nurses that can do more than those trained with an RN. He concluded the program seemed to fit best within COAS, and the director hired for the School has her doctorate within Biological Sciences. Senator Jelatis asked about the Nursing Senate as included in the proposals organizational chart. Associate Dean Schmidt explained the Nursing Senate, chaired by the Nursing Director, will oversee all committees and will include representation from junior- and senior-level students. He added Nursing Senate is common nomenclature in nursing schools. Senator Erdmann asked where students will perform their clinical rotations. Nursing professor Sandy Nash has contacted the St. Francis School of Nursing and Methodist Medical Center in Peoria for rotations. She said there will also be opportunities for rotations at Blessing in Quincy and McDonough District Hospital. She explained that McDonough District will be used when possible, but it is a smaller facility and only a Trauma Level II; more seriously ill patients are flown to larger hospitals. Rotations will also be held at public health departments, obstetrics departments, and Methodists mental health facility. Ms. Nash stated hospitals are very willing to open their doors to nursing students because it is a way for them to recruit. Senator Erdmann asked where the skills lab will be located. Ms. Nash responded that a health assessment lab is located in Room 388 Waggoner Hall. The skills lab, which is in the process of being built, will be located in the Waggoner Hall basement, Room 53. Senator Erdmann asked if the program was using other facilities for community health or similar kinds of coursework. Ms. Nash responded that nursing must adhere to strict state regulations as to who can teach the coursework. Professors must have at least a masters in Nursing, so that even if a faculty member possesses a masters or above in Health Sciences, if he/she is not an RN, that professor could not teach community health to nurses. She added guest speakers will likely be invited to present to classes, but the overall faculty will have to have their masters in Nursing. Parliamentarian Kaul asked what other approvals must be obtained for the program. Ms. Nash responded the IBHE is the approving body at the state collegiate level; the State of Illinois does not have a board of nursing. The Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation mandates what a school of nursing must include within it, and if ֱ is in accordance with these mandates, the IBHE will likely also be satisfied. Senator Erdmann asked whether the number of credit hours estimated to be assigned for one FTE faculty member in FY11 was based upon a 12-month or a 9-month contract. Ms. Nash responded that FTE right now is based upon a 9-month budget, although there may be some clinical adjunct faculty members hired that will not necessarily be full-time. Senator Erdmann asked how travel is covered in the overall cost. Parliamentarian Kaul responded this is normally part of the departments operating budget. Associate Dean Schmidt stated that many of the issues raised by Senator Erdmann are included in the comprehensive feasibility study that accompanies the proposal to IBHE. When asked why COAS requests creation of a School of Nursing as opposed to a Department of Nursing, Associate Dean Schmidt replied one of the benefits of a School of Nursing is professional identity. He informed senators the ratio of nursing programs housed in schools is 5:1 to those housed in departments. He added nurses see themselves more as nursing professionals if they come from a school or college as opposed to graduating from a department. Ms. Nash added that continuing to house the program under Biological Sciences would result in constraints that may impede future expansion of the program. She said housing the program within a school makes it seem more a profession than a trade. Senator Meloy stated she takes offense at this interpretation, explaining that there are numerous other graduates of WIU who consider that they are entering a profession, so Nursing is not the only group that uses such a moniker. Provost Thomas stated that using the designation school can open the program up more to outside funding and Carnegie classification. Senator Deitz asked if existing state resources enumerated for the School of Nursing refer to future projections. Associate Dean Schmidt responded the chart anticipates costs and the funding to support it, adding that the proposal specifies that ֱ will not be making a request for new state resources to support Nursing. He explained that the chart references annual expenses that will be paid for yearly. Resources Available through Internal Reallocation refers to one-time expenses or the first year of a new position. Senator Hironimus-Wendt noted that over one million dollars a year is allocated toward the Nursing program. He stated that although he is a senator at-large, if he were a senator representing the College of Arts and Sciences he would wonder how to explain to his constituents that such an expenditure is in their best interests. The senator asked what the benefit will be to College of Arts and Sciences faculty of reallocation of internal resources to support the Nursing program. Associate Dean Schmidt responded part of ֱs responsibility as a regional public university is to respond to the needs of its region, and there is a dramatic need for nurses, particularly at the baccalaureate level. He said the shortage expected for nurses and, particularly, for nursing educators can be somewhat solved by graduating more nurses from programs such as ֱs. He explained there are a large percentage of nurses anticipated for retirement in the foreseeable future, and more nurses need to enter the pipeline to meet this shortage, particularly at the masters and doctoral level as nursing educators. Senator Hironimus-Wendt asked why it was decided to establish the School within COAS rather than creating a new College of Nursing. He said while he agrees that more trained nurses need to be developed and believes in service to the region, he wishes to hear how it is in the best interests of faculty within COAS to make the sacrifices necessary to establish a School of Nursing within the College. Associate Dean Schmidt responded that Faculty Senate approved Nursing curricula because it decided as a body twice that there is a need for such a program, so in a way that question has already been answered. He said the University, College and faculty governance bodies have seen fit to approve similar programs such as Forensic Chemistry. He pointed out that, like that program, Nursing has the potential to increase the number of graduates for the College. Provost Thomas added that although COAS is a large college, the Nursing program has to start somewhere. He said the decision may be made at a later date, once Nursing is established as a school, to develop a different sort of professional health administrative unit or something of that nature. He said lack of nurses is not just a local or regional but a national concern, and WIU needs to position itself to meet this growing need. Provost Thomas stated Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville is eating our lunch with already established programs in Nursing and Pharmacy. The Provost stated these are cutting edge programs that can make an institution stand out. He stated that ֱ wants to continue to grow its enrollment, and programs such as Nursing are where WIU can bring in additional dollars and different kinds of funding. Provost Thomas stated that ֱ appears to have leveled off in terms of grants at $12 million for the past three years. He said an institution of ֱs size should be able to bring in more research dollars, and if WIU establishes these kinds of cutting edge programs, it can obtain higher levels of funding, such as Carnegie funds. Parliamentarian Kaul recalled that when the new Engineering program was approved, there was a commitment made on the floor of the Senate that its funding would not come from the College of Business and Technology but would be supported from new money. He wondered if there was a similar kind of commitment made regarding Nursing, that its support would come from external sources, and stated he shares the concerns about its funding coming primarily from the College. Senator Pynes added his concern, pointing out that the Nursing operating budget of $14,500 is about $3,500 more than that for his department. He asked how COAS in general determines operating budgets, stating that Philosophy and Religious Studies has created a new major and hired four new faculty members without seeing an increase in its operating budget. Associate Dean Schmidt responded that he does not know that determination of operating budgets by COAS is something that he can address or something that would be appropriate to discuss on the Senate floor. Dr. Intrieri noted that WIU is uniquely positioned in a rural area and asked if Nursing plans to use ֱs rural location as a potential resource. He hopes the program will at least evaluate rural mental health issues and the woeful lack of treatment facilities, and hopes that this will be a good future placement for graduates of the program. Associate Dean Schmidt responded the curriculum includes a fourth-year rotation in a clinical area focusing on rural health issues as one of three different electives from which students may choose. He said Nursing curricula have already been passed that address rural health concerns to some extent. Ms. Nash added that one of the other electives is Gerontological nursing. She said an attempt was made to choose electives that would serve ֱs surrounding area. Motion: To approve the creation of a School of Nursing (Siddiqi/Maskarinec) Senator Boynton asked why no new state resources are being requested to initiate the program, wondering if this is to make the proposal more attractive to the IBHE. Associate Dean Schmidt responded creation of the School of Nursing will not be contingent upon new state funding, but this doesnt mean that ֱ will not see some new funding. Senator Hoge remarked that when he hears the word reallocation, it usually indicates that someone is going to lose out. He asked to know before he votes who is the loser in this particular situation, and what exactly is funding through reallocation. Assistant Provost Ken Hawkinson explained that in the consolidated budget process, a plan is developed for new programs, which then goes to the Provost and President, and when departments ask for new programs, they are in effect asking for new money. He said this is not actually reallocation within the College of Arts and Sciences: the Nursing program has been funded through the consolidated budget process for new money. He explained that money comes into the University from tuition and new dollars from the state, and its reallocation may be at the University level rather than at the college level. Assistant Provost Hawkinson explained the President has a big pot that he divides up in meetings with the vice presidents dependent upon the consolidated budget process. He said the decision involves what to do with the money that comes in, but does not involve taking the money from someone or some area. Parliamentarian Kaul asked why the College is not asking for new state money for creation of the School. He stated that the University of Illinois-Champaign received new state funding for the creation of their new biomedical engineering program. Parliamentarian Kaul suggested the proposal could be written so that creation of a School of Nursing is not contingent upon new state funding and will run regardless, but that it is specifically clear that ֱ does need state support for the program. Associate Dean Schmidt said he cannot answer this question. He noted that many programs have been created at ֱ while he was associate dean that were not contingent upon new state funding, so this has been standard practice and Nursing is using essentially the same approach as has been used in the past. Assistant Provost Hawkinson stated the University will ask for state funds, but perhaps not directly tied to the new program. He said money pours into the University of Illinois because they have programs aligned with state priorities. Because it is a state priority to create more nurses, creation of the School of Nursing will give the Provost and President leverage when they speak to IBHE and state legislators for funding increases for the University. He predicted state, federal, and donor funding will follow creation of the Nursing program, leading to the possibility of increased overall funding for WIU. Provost Thomas agreed that creation of the Nursing School could open doors for ֱ in terms of increased funding, and stated that using the lack of funding as a reason not to create new programs will lead to other institutions jumping into that gap. He added that the institution is requesting new dollars for the Engineering program, but WIU cannot request this for every new program right now. Senator Jelatis remarked that senators have actually seen the Nursing budget figures before, and noted that whether Nursing is created as a school, department, or program, the money has already been allocated. Provost Thomas confirmed this is the case. Senator Jelatis stated that although the Senates current charge is specifically to consider creation of a School of Nursing, it is difficult not to react to the budgetary aspects of the program. She said the money is a point of focus on the issue of whether this program would be better placed as a college within the University or as a School with the College of Arts and Sciences. She said approving schools has been seen as a good idea for WIU in the past, with Schools of Law Enforcement, Music, and Social Work and creation of the Nursing program will occur whether it is as a school or as a department. 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